A few Questions

I was following 901 Tango last night (Thursday around dusk). The pilot was doing Cessna approaches -long, low, and fast. I was in the Super D. I managed to talk them out of (into?) the other runway, and did two landings while the Citabria was setting up for a long stabilized power on approach. Did not recognize the voice.

Taildraggers do not do well in long, low, fast stabilized approaches.
 
That was me. Still working on the height of the approach Or I should say still trying to figure out when to cut power to keep altitude.
As fast as speed Im at 70 o. Final and trying to touch around 60
Slower ?
 
Tighter patterns and idle descent will make your angle steeper. Remember, even the AIM says you can be established on final at 1/4 mile, which is over the east edge of taxiway Alpha pavement. The only reason to fly a one mile final (over the freeway) is if you are following someone.
 
Thanks. I went out this morning and made it a point to tighten my pattern. Slipped most. Only has one come up short.
Dropped the touchdown speed to 60
Feels better
 
Even for practice, a slip or a go around is better than dragging it in. Not sure if your certificates but the commercial maneuver power off 180 is the best way to make yourself keep it tight. Since you aren’t doing a checkride you can always add power and stop your descent and then continue when ready. Or slip it in or go around.

All through college I was on the schools flight team. One of our landing events was reducing all the power abeam the landing line and flying a perfect pattern down to the line. Points were added on for s turns, cutting corners or overshooting, once flaps were down they couldn’t come up, if power was added points were added, and slips and diving towards the line were dq’s. One of the best learning experiences ever. All the flight team students flew awesome patterns compared to the rest of the students.

My point of that long explaination, is 3 years later I still do all my landings as if the 20 judges are still scattered around watching me. I can pretty consistently pull the power, keep a perfect square pattern, no slips, little changes in power, and still put it down in the same spot every time. Fly that airplane like there are judges watching you and set higher standards. Flying alone I never found helpful as the standards are less. Bringing someone up makes you want to “impress them” and you will focus harder on a perfect approach/landing.

Side note, I was a private pilot when the started the flight team and took 5th and my last year I took 2nd in that exact event so what certificate you have doesn’t matter.
 
I can't consistently do that and I practice! I bet I did a hundred landings last week. One day I did 26 in the Stearman.

The Citabria should touch down around 49 mph. It can approach at 60, but 70 is better until you get a lot of experience.
 
I agree that the 180 power off to a designated point is an excellent way to get to know a plane*.

And yes, 60 on short final. I don't look at it again after I cross the fence but the actual touch down is WAY slower, and occurs when the wing is done flying

*Took my commercial check ride in a 180hp "Hershey bar" Arrow. Even an immediate dive for the numbers could come up short in that plane.
 
Finally got to fly the Aircraft I'm looking to buy. Went up to Shafter and got to do some backcountry flying. My first dirt landing, my first cow patch landing and first time eating breakfast at the Kern Valley Airport

My Idea of what a plane should look like


31810623407_7d3007ff40_c.jpg




31810624277_b615962292_c.jpg




45836946445_a0d112809a_c.jpg


46699481872_3e8588ca33_c.jpg
46699506972_18cee6f184_c.jpg








 
Back
Top