MOSAIC

[Sully]

Thanks. So there is an LSA that cannot be flown by a Sport Pilot?

Correct.
Light Sport is a new Category.

 

[Bob Turner]

Thank you.

I find that fairly confusing. Of course, at my age a lot of things are making less sense.

 

[Sully]

It is VERY confusing. But when have the regs been perfectly clear?
I'm old too.

 

[JackC]

MOST all planes that have <59kts stall speed clean, were not CERTIFIED with more than 4 seats (have to look at your TCDS regardless of how many seats shipped in the plane when it was new) are good to go with drivers license medical sport these days.

BASIC is much more open, includes night, IFR, and no seat limit but a 6 pax limit (sport is only 1 pax), also you can go up to FL180, where as sport it’s the higher of 10k MSL or 2k AGL, so this would be the choice if you have a 185, beaver, 206, etc


My big takeaway, if you have had a medical and it expired, go basic, you just get a local doc in the box to do your checklist, nothing gets sent to the feds, if you have a issue on the checklist you can fix it and then go back to the doc, no penalty.

If you have never had a medical and don’t want to deal with getting a medical, go sport.

You can also CFI on ether As they allow you to act as PIC, and since you’re making money off your instructors ticket, good to go

If your medical was revoked you are cooked on BOTH until you resolve the issue with the FAA.


If I wasn’t flying for $$ I’d let my 1st class fully expire and go basic with zero hesitation

 

[JackC]

Did the ground school. I need to revise my notes - starting to confuse BasicMed with Mosaic/Sport. I will do the research for next time, but a little chart might be useful - BasicMed has a critical distinction that Sport does not - something about actually holding a third class at one point.

It does seem that a major difference is night flight.

I'll work on the table . . .

Another thing I used to be good at was insurance issues and CFI liability. I am now getting conflicting information. Doesn't affect me; I now carry the SAFE insurance - but I get assurances that instructing an owner in his/her aircraft means I am an additional insured, but oh-by the way, if I want a waiver of subrogation it will be $200. Those two ideas conflict.

If I instruct, or contract, in someone’s plane I’m added as named insured to their policy at their expense, I also have them sign a waiver and that waiver also states that if they have insurance I am added as such

There is also this product

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Allows you to buy insurance just for a day or week etc

Never had a claim with them so I don’t know how they are there, but option

 

[Bob Turner]

Thanks Jack. That helps - did not know about the 10,000 foot limit. Poor study habits.

On the insurance, for a CFI what you want is a "tail." What can happen is you do a Flight Review and one year plus ten months later there is a crash involving your student and maybe his neighbor's kids. Not your fault, of course - you cannot control dumb stuff with a simple flight review.

But the plaintiff attorneys will name everybody - pilot's estate, Cessna, mechanic, and unfortunately, you.

As far as I know, SAFE is the only insurer that does that.