Garmin GTR-200 GTR-205 non-TSO radios

Bob Turner

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I am going to repeat myself - this is probably the best light plane radio out there for a number of reasons, not the least of which is its startlingly good intercom, as well as an excellent display and easily used memory feature. It is advertised as experimental only for regulatory reasons, but can legally be used in light aircraft.
It has two downsides - one, it has inadequate RF squelch, so will more readily pick up local extraneous noise than other coms on the market, and for battery only aircraft it is voltage sensitive - a 12 volt battery must be kept above 12.8 volts or so for good power output. These two things seriously impact my use, but the other advantages clearly outweigh these by a mile or so.

My local FSDO spent two months trying to convince me that a non-TSO radio cannot be used in a certificated aircraft, but they were never able to cite a single rule to that effect. In a panic (they read me my rights and informed me I could be violated for each and every flight - they were friendly and polite about it) I studied the issue, and now I am going to post my findings here.

After I do that, I will indicate how to program your local frequencies, and give you a few installation hints.
 
Here is a rather lengthy list of FAA rules and controlling documents:

CAR4a – the certification basis for the early Cubs and the Stearman

CAR3 – sort of surprisingly the certification basis for aircraft after about 1948

14CFR 1.1 definition of major alteration

14CFR 43 App A – lists major alterations and discusses altering appliances

AC 43-210 A – has the flow chart that helps determine major alteration status - figures 3-1 and 3-2. Really easy to use the part about major/minor.

AFS 300 – Job Aid, Major Repair and Alteration Data Approval

FAR 21.93 – referenced in the flow chart. Defines minor “change”

Order 8300.16A – FAA guidance for Field Approvals

AC 20-67B – this one is titled “Airborne VHF Communications Equipment Installations”.

AC 43-18 – contains a definition of “critical”

Garmin GTR-200 installation manual:

14CFR 91.205 and 91.215 address avionics. 205 is communications, 215 is transponder/encoder. TSO is not required by either of these regulations. See part 135 discussion in the more detailed list.

Policy Statement PS-AIR-21.8-1602

14 CFR 43 App A comment discusses changes to basic design of systems, including electrical systems. The FAA offers no guidance on what comprises an electrical system, but other sources imply that a continuous source is a necessary part of an electrical system.
 
If that leaves you cold, I have an annotated version. I put the most important stuff in bold, and call your attention to 14 CFR 91.215 as an example. It is a regulation, and says point blank that even transponders do not need to be TSO - they just have to meet TSO requirements. The FAA carefully defines "meet" in their own technical directive to inspectors - both of these are in bold below.

Also note that a lot of this is aimed at whether installing a radio is a major or minor alteration. In the case of the Champs (those that came with radios, anyway) this is a non-issue. The FSDO's position originally was that a non-TSO installation was a major alteration. Almost everything I came up with explicitly and expressly indicated that a com radio in a Cub was simply not a major alteration. Yes, if you have to alter structure (say, a butt rib) that becomes major, but it has nothing to do with the radio.


Here is the annotated version of the regulations and guidance. It tells the story almost without any analysis:

CAR4a – the certification basis for the early Cubs and the Stearman
CAR3 – sort of surprisingly the certification basis for aircraft after about 1948 – the Super Cub is a CAR3 airplane. Comes after CAR 4a.
14CFR 1.1 definition of major alteration
14CFR 43 App A – lists major alterations and discusses altering appliances
AC 43-210 A – has the flow chart that helps determine major alteration status (fig 3-1 & 3-2)
Also speaks to “certification basis” para. 2.2.3.1. Get the latest CHG 1 with commentary.


AFS 300 – Job Aid, Major Repair and Alteration Data Approval

Element D.7 gives examples of “flight critical” equipment

Element D.13 addresses “critical functions”

Element D13l speaks to HSI instruments in part 23 airplanes(!)

Element D13q addresses permanent mounts for GPS etc. – and references “Policy” statement ACE 23-01




Policy Statement ACE 23-01 says, with some caveats about non-interference with other systems and pilots, that a permanent mount can be installed as a minor alteration, and may be connected to aircraft power. Now we need a definition of “portable.”


From PED ARC Final Report 09.30.13:

Portable Electronic Device: A Portable Electronic Device (PED) is any piece of lightweight, electrically-powered equipment. These devices are typically consumer electronics devices functionally capable of communications, data processing and/or utility.


Not sure that helps, but it definitely says the GTR-200 can be used as a portable electronics device. How does a radio become portable? Remove the hold-down device, or replace it with a thumb screw?


AC 43-18 – contains a definition of “critical”


FAR 21.93 – referenced in the flow chart. Defines minor “change” (probably synonymous with “alteration”)



Order 8300.16A – FAA guidance. Also contains the flow chart and clear statements:

1.c. Minor alterations or repairs do not require approved data.

3.2.c.2 – confirm that alteration is “major”

3.a.(1) – determine certification basis

3.3.c . . . show compliance with certification basis ( in our case, CAR4a)

4.1.c – discusses “acceptable data” . . .

4.2c - “If the regulation requires only that an item must be “acceptable to” it does not follow that the FAA requires the item to have specific . . .”

5.2 - speaks to certification under CAR

8.10.a – addresses commercial off-the-shelf articles- “may be acceptable . . .”

8.10.b – addresses section 21.9 and installers.

8.10.c – addresses whether an article must be approved

8.10.c(2) – Acceptable data for minor alterations

Appendix A.10 – definition of “meets” – see 91.215 (transponders)




AC 20-67B – this one is titled “Airborne VHF Communications Equipment Installations”.

Paragraph 1 – one means of demonstrating compliance . .

Paragraph 3 – lists FAR sections, including part 23. Our aircraft are not certificated under part 23.

Paragraph 4 – BACKGROUND – last sentence addresses existing design standards and indicates that “specific systems” may require treatment per AC 20-41A, which itself deals with swapping TSO equipment and flight testing. “Specific systems” requires a definition, and implies a subset.

Paragraph 5 states that if a communications system complies with RTCA DO 186, that becomes “An acceptable means of compliance with the regulations . . .

The only wiggle room here is that this applies only under IFR, and not to CAR4a aircraft.



Garmin GTR-200 installation manual: The GTR-200/200B transmitter and receiver meet the requirements of RTCA DO-186B (see paragraph 1.3.4) and the GTR-200B is PMA (see paragraph 1.4). The 200B is different only because it is “Bluetooth” enabled.



14 CFR 91.205 and 91.215 address avionics. 205 requires suitable two way radio equipment for IFR flight, with no mention of TSO. 215, on the other hand, mentions TSO for transponder equipment. It does not say TSO is required – it says that the equipment must meet the requirements of TSO. The folks who write these regulations know the difference between “meets the requirements of” and “must be certificated under.” If they had intended to restrict all avionics to TSO only, they knew how to say so. See the definition of “meet” in Appendix A of Order 8300.16A.

Also note the regulations for part 135 operations. Compare the part 91 navigation equipment for overwater flight (just need a nav receiver) to the part 135 requirement of an “approved receiver.” See 91.511 vs 135.165. No statement in 135 requires an “approved” communications installation.





Policy Statement PS-AIR-21.8-1602

This document has almost nothing to do with communication radios, but it does address the ultimate regulatory goal – safety of flight. Its purpose seems to be encouraging the use of safety enhancing items, like angle of attack indicators and self contained attitude indicators. It defines “critical function” clearly (as do other documents). Communication radios do not appear to fall in the critical category. One can (and we do) continue flight after failure of a radio.


And – there was a “working group” set up in the 1990s, producing some work aimed at clarifying the major/minor distinction. The big deal appears to be interpretation of such vague terms as “appreciable effect.” Shouldn’t have any effect on the GTR-200 installation and evaluation – it would be difficult to measure “any” effect on any of the listed criteria with or without the GTR-200 installation, even with sophisticated test equipment. Carrying a water bottle would have more of an effect.


Finally, there has been some discussion of the possibility that the two wires from the portable battery to the radio, through a switch and a circuit protection device, is a “basic change in the electrical system.” That is probably stretching it a lot, but here is the Part 43 App A comment:

(xii) Changes to the basic design of the fuel, oil, cooling, heating, cabin pressurization, electrical, hydraulic, de-icing, or exhaust systems.

So, what is an “electrical system?”

My initial gut feeling is that it is comprised of a source, a regulator, a battery, and a distribution network. Individual elements are not “the system.”

Flight Safety Foundation “Skybrary” defines it that way: “An aircraft electrical system is a self contained network of components that generate, trainsmit, distribute, utilize, and store electrical energy.”

“All aircraft electrical systems have components with the ability to generate electricity.”



CFI Notebook – probably not the most authoritative source: “The primary function of an aircraft electrical system is to generate, regulate, . . .”


And Flying Magazine, likewise not the definitive source, but at least a consensus: “The electrical system wasn’t always so important. In decades past, many thousands of light airplanes had no electrical system at all . . . a battery powered the navigation lights . . .”


Since the FAA has chosen not to define what an “electrical system” is, a mechanic should be free to determine that a battery, a switch, a couple of wires, and a circuit protection device is a simple circuit – especially if the battery is a portable unit.
 
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@Bob Turner

I appreciate the time it took to type out all of that and I apologize for not responding sooner even though I read through it when you first posted it. What's brought me back to it is that I just got off the phone with Stein from SteinAir.com. In asking about price/availability of the comm radio and transponder I'll be buying for my 8KCAB he asked why I'd buy the GTR-225 when the -200 is basically the same radio but without the TSO! I immediately thought of you Bob!

He explained some of the most common radios in general aviation, the Narco's and King KX-170's were non-TSO and that if planes were built and delivered without comm radios, there's no obligation to install TSO radios in them today. He did mention that this applies to VFR planes only.

So I'm sold and will save the $1000 difference between the -225 and -200 and put the -200 in my Decathlon. There's a 6 month lead time on the transponders so it won't be anytime soon!
 
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You will be happy. The 200 display and memory functions are better than the 225. And remember, the internal intercom is the best I have ever tried.

I just copied and pasted - no special effort.

And not true - you can use non-TSO com, nav, and transponders IFR.
If you want to operate part 135 or 121, further research is necessary.

And the -200 is a minor alteration - logbook entry.

The FSDO tried to make it a major alteration - not the radio installation, but the non-TSO part. They practically forced me to apply for a field approval, which I did under protest. They are obliged to respond in writing - they have not, after eight months.
 
Bob,

The -225 has a dedicated Speaker output but the -200 only has a "receiver" output. Looking at the description below does it look sufficient to drive a speaker? Is a speaker even considered required equipment? Is a hand mic still required if the plane has a radio?

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Now that I'm thinking about it, the plane was originally delivered without radios so there wouldn't have been a speaker or hand mic either. Wouldn't that remove the possibility that either item is required or are they required by some FAR related to comm radios?
 
I have never seen a regulation dealing with speakers and hand mics. Nobody uses either any more - not even in airliners.

I hook "left" headset output to the headset jack, and leave "right" open. World's simplest - four twin lead shielded wires, two PTT wires, power, ground, and antenna. Takes around three hours start to finish.

Internal setup is important. Happy to share, since I think I have it typed up somewhere. Started installation today. Anybody want a used SL-40 for a reasonably low price? Works great.
 
I hook "left" headset output to the headset jack, and leave "right" open. World's simplest - four twin lead shielded wires, two PTT wires, power, ground, and antenna. Takes around three hours start to finish.

Hi Bob,

I'm still trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding the way shielded wires are terminated on each end. On the radio side the shields are terminated to either the body of the instrument or the body of the plug housing but, for the PTT's for example, are you terminating the shields to the airframe near the controls? Same thing with the power/ground cable, radio end is terminated to the plug body but at the other end by the avionics master switch, is the shield just terminated to the common airframe ground?

I bought the 200B for the bluetooth feature to have music on cross country flights but now I'm realizing I'd need stereo headsets to really make the most of it. 😳

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=stereo+aircraft+headsets

Thanks!
 
For the record, the non-bluetooth radios have an aux jack for music. I also use it for audio traffic alerts from the Nav software on my iPad.
 
You're absolutely right Ed
Hi Bob,

I'm still trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding the way shielded wires are terminated on each end. On the radio side the shields are terminated to either the body of the instrument or the body of the plug housing but, for the PTT's for example, are you terminating the shields to the airframe near the controls? Same thing with the power/ground cable, radio end is terminated to the plug body but at the other end by the avionics master switch, is the shield just terminated to the common airframe ground?

I bought the 200B for the bluetooth feature to have music on cross country flights but now I'm realizing I'd need stereo headsets to really make the most of it. 😳

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=stereo+aircraft+headsets

Thanks!


Reading articles around the internet it appears that grounding the shield at the device end only is recommended the majority of the time. It also appears it's like which oil to use, there are lot of opinions and contradictions!
 
No there aren't. Shields are grounded at one end only. The only exceptions I am aware of on light aircraft are antenna coax and p-leads.

Ground the four shields at the radio end only by screwing a crimped terminal lug to the provided holes in the shell. Leave the end at the jack ungrounded. In fact, wait until final installation to solder the jacks, and isolate them with the proper fiber washer pairs.

To attach the wire to the shields it is probably best to use the solder ferrules designed for that purpose, but I simply solder the lead to the shield, coat the shield with solder, and put shrink tape on. Best to do all that before crimping the barrels.

The Garmin connector is set up so that a shielded pair will pretty much be aimed at its proper hole. I will post a drawing soon.
 
No there aren't. Shields are grounded at one end only. The only exceptions I am aware of on light aircraft are antenna coax and p-leads.

Ground the four shields at the radio end only by screwing a crimped terminal lug to the provided holes in the shell. Leave the end at the jack ungrounded. In fact, wait until final installation to solder the jacks, and isolate them with the proper fiber washer pairs.

To attach the wire to the shields it is probably best to use the solder ferrules designed for that purpose, but I simply solder the lead to the shield, coat the shield with solder, and put shrink tape on. Best to do all that before crimping the barrels.

The Garmin connector is set up so that a shielded pair will pretty much be aimed at its proper hole. I will post a drawing soon.

Thanks Bob. Some of the instructions don't show shielded wire for power cables but it seems like you use them for everything.

I think I have all of the supplies that'll be needed, just have to review everything with my IA friend and then get started. Really appreciate the help from you and @Hiperbiper plus the good ideas from Ed and everyone else.
 
I don't shield power, ground, or PTT wires. The shields protect the wires inside from noise. Resist the temptation to shield everything. Just shield audio high and low.

I have the drawings - will try to get a decent photo.
 
I had a really good drawing - gave it away. Dirt-simple. Let me know if this isn’t clear.

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After you do that, you need to program the thing. I have that typed up, and will post.

Pins 2 and 22 are “discretes.” You can use them for intercom push-to-talks. I have discovered that this feature is not needed - but it is just two unshelled wires and two push buttons. We don’t even use it in the Stearman - a closed cockpit Champ has almost zero ambient noise in comparison.
 
Thanks Bob!

Do you ground the PTT's by the sticks or do you bring them back closer to the radio and use one of the common grounds behind the panel?
 
I have done both. Doesn’t seem to make any difference.
Grounds can be a very big deal with high frequencies, but with DC they either work or they don’t. Still, connecting things with a ground wire cannot hurt.
 
Sorry to wake up an old thread but I had a thought while searching about the non tso radio dilemma. I was talking with the ia I am working with about where our local fsdo is in the subject and they are stuck on the tso requirement for radios.

My question that I now pose is if you look at the aca website the radio they install on new aircraft is the gtr 200b, which is not tso. Does that trump the requirement due to the fact it is installed on the new aircraft under the same tcds. Therefore buy removing the original 1976 installed radio and installing a new replacement radio same as installed on a new aircraft. It is a simple minor alteration and tso is not a factor? Just a thought......
Scott
 
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